Matthias Clasen (matthias) Federico Mena Quintero (federico) Behdad Esfahbod (behdad) Tim Janik (rambokid) Carol Spears (carol) Billy Biggs (vektor) Nov 22 22:01:38 --> You are now talking on #gtk-devel Nov 22 22:04:10 I don't have too much time today (have to leave at 4:45) Nov 22 22:04:45 I want to discuss the 2 things in the agenda, but maybe there are other topics ? Nov 22 22:06:34 go ahead Nov 22 22:06:46 ok, first thing is the stable branch Nov 22 22:06:47 * behdad looks around Nov 22 22:07:25 turns out that there are a few issues with the file chooser fixes in 2.8.7 that I want to fix before the next gnome release Nov 22 22:07:42 therefore I'll roll another stable release next Monday Nov 22 22:08:10 I hope that we can fix the file chooser by then Nov 22 22:08:26 federico, do you think you will have time to look at the 2 bugs ? Nov 22 22:09:48 hmm, maybe he does take a shower... Nov 22 22:10:12 seems so Nov 22 22:10:24 the other topic I wanted to discuss is the race condition in idle handling that is described in http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=321886 Nov 22 22:10:56 I think the described race is real, but tiny Nov 22 22:11:09 (otherwise we would have noticed it causing problems by now...) Nov 22 22:13:12 thankfully owen already gave his view on gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Nov 22 22:14:27 http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2005-November/msg00130.html Nov 22 22:15:00 mclasen: this looks complicated. if you want me to comment on that, i can read through this unhurriedly ("in ruhe") in the next few days and think about a solution. Nov 22 22:15:06 the check & ref thing looks a pretty common solution, if easy to implement. Nov 22 22:15:20 rambokid: might indeed be best to discuss possible fixes via mail Nov 22 22:18:08 I guess most of you probably saw that anders' OS X support landed in cvs today Nov 22 22:18:44 * mclasen thinks we should probably make that a news item on www.gtk.org Nov 22 22:19:52 and pango.org Nov 22 22:19:53 yeah, i think that's a good idea Nov 22 22:20:10 oh, yes pango.org too Nov 22 22:20:26 would be a shame to continue neglecting it, now that its a wiki Nov 22 22:20:38 it would be nice if gtk.org news had some sort of feed Nov 22 22:20:58 the pango patch didn't handle docs. Nov 22 22:21:04 I suspect it's the same about gtk+ Nov 22 22:21:14 carol: nice idea Nov 22 22:21:39 behdad: what new docs do we need ? Maybe a section about compiling on OS X Nov 22 22:21:43 pango has a feed but they don't have news there Nov 22 22:21:56 behdad: www.pango.org doesn't even have a news section Nov 22 22:22:08 behdad: so no way to advertise the latest speed improvements... Nov 22 22:22:51 mclasen: about pango.org, we update the front page that talks about backends. Nov 22 22:23:40 pango.org is a wiki? Nov 22 22:23:40 mclasen: about docs, I get a gtk-doc warning about 34 unused declarations. all are atsui things. Nov 22 22:23:47 carol: yeah, for some time now. Nov 22 22:24:10 so, it looks like docs are there, gtk-doc needs to be instructed to use them. I don't know gtk-doc at all Nov 22 22:24:36 behdad: wiki's look nice but diffs are not the best way to read the news... Nov 22 22:24:50 right Nov 22 22:25:38 * behdad commits federico's latest patch. Nov 22 22:26:14 behdad: are they _-prefixed ? Nov 22 22:26:31 they should either be static or _-prefixed Nov 22 22:26:44 mclasen: no, not really. like: pango_cairo_atsui_font_get_atsu_font_id Nov 22 22:27:13 oh oh, and a typo in the method name I just pasted. Nov 22 22:27:14 behdad: oh, right, pango has docs for these backend functions Nov 22 22:27:19 or maybe not. Nov 22 22:27:22 yeah.. Nov 22 22:27:31 I think Nov 22 22:27:56 i waited a few years and then started to work with the gimp web site again. it works surprisingly well once you get apache configured correctly. just something to consider. Nov 22 22:28:15 behdad, we should probably remind anders about providing the docs once we get near the release time Nov 22 22:29:01 behdad, or maybe ask him now, so that he is aware of it, and then remind him if the docs don't show up until close to the release... Nov 22 22:29:08 mclasen: yeah. looks like no docs at all. Nov 22 22:29:28 ok, turns out I actually have to leave in 2 minutes, not in 17 as I thought... Nov 22 22:29:57 so we release glib and pango stable with gtk+? Nov 22 22:31:13 behdad, you mean the 2.8.x releases next week ? Nov 22 22:31:25 mclasen: yes. Nov 22 22:32:01 I don't know a particular reason to do another quick glib release. Is there a need for a stable pango release ? Nov 22 22:32:11 Maybe for the random font bug Nov 22 22:32:28 mclasen: yeah, a few bug fixes landed. Nov 22 22:32:49 behdad, up to you, I think. Nov 22 22:33:08 Anyway, gotta run now. Happy Thanksgiving everybody. See you next week Nov 22 22:33:12 ok, as time permits. Nov 22 22:33:21 Happy American Thanksgiving. Nov 22 22:33:24 see you, have fun. Nov 22 22:34:50 crazy, thanksgiving in november? what are they thinking. Nov 22 22:35:04 they're always late. Nov 22 22:37:12 mclasen: yeah, I'll look at them Nov 22 22:37:23 mclasen: after lunch today